Ballroom Dance > 2013 MAC

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by Daphna, Sep 23, 2012.

  1. JudeMorrigan

    JudeMorrigan Well-Known Member

    I'd worry that that would only exacerbate any issues the ... more entitled parents might have. ("I'm paying to be in here. You have to tolerate my lack of consideration for others.")
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  2. PseudoDancer

    PseudoDancer New Member

    Out of curiosity, did anyone find/accidentally grab a pair of black standard pants Saturday night? Mine were lost/taken/misplaced. I would definitely be willing to compensate whoever found them.
  3. j_alexandra

    j_alexandra Well-Known Member

    OK, point taken.
  4. Bailamosdance

    Bailamosdance Well-Known Member

    No, since their entrance would be governed by security (which is paid for by the extra fee) you would be able to ask security to mediate.
  5. Daphna

    Daphna Well-Known Member

    Comments regarding the parent's behavior at the MAC have been posted on the JADA facebook page. Will keep you all posted as to the results.
  6. Meagan

    Meagan Active Member

    Not sure on this one, as some of us long standing volunteers know, paid security is not always better at handling the parents. ;) I've had some guards over the years that were great at it but others that just looked downright terrified (and switched shifts to get away).

    Tough to decide on the venue, there were positives and negatives for sure! I did appreciate the view, it reminded me I should hang out on the river more often!! Although maybe not in January :)
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  7. Larinda McRaven

    Larinda McRaven Site Moderator Staff Member

    Because you should not be changing in the same room as a 13 year old little girl...!!!
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  8. Joe

    Joe Well-Known Member

    ...who could go behind the privacy screen that was mentioned, with mom.
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  9. Milen

    Milen Member

    They can't get them to go into the right room and you expect them to utilize the screens properly? Like they are grown-up, responsible, rule-abiding people?
    My mom would go in, ignoring what people tell her and do whatever she's decided to do. If someone tries to stand in her way she'll pretend she doesn't speak their language whatever it is and continue with what she was up to. My brothers and sister have been raised to do the same. That seems fairly typical for many Eastern Europeans and Russians.
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  10. bia

    bia Well-Known Member

    It's not about body issues or individual prudishness, it's about different cultural conventions. If you're in a country where the normal thing to do on a family beach trip is just to change into your suits on the beach, having a communal changing area is no big deal. That's not the US, and it's not likely to be any time soon. It's not wrong to feel uncomfortable in a context that is at odds with your whole-life socialization, and forcing people into that kind of discomfort is too big a price to pay for a little extra convenience.
  11. Joe

    Joe Well-Known Member

    So what you're saying is that rudeness is cultural.
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  12. scotttocs

    scotttocs Member

    Having some fluent Russian speakers as volunteers in the ticketing and registration line on Sunday afternoon *definitely* made a difference on keeping things flowing smoothly at that point.
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  13. Lorelei

    Lorelei Member

    I really liked the new venue and had a very enjoyable experience both as a competitor and as a spectator. Perhaps this venue was not as regal-looking as Manhattan Center, but was beautiful and unique nonetheless. To me it did not feel any less like MAC...besides MAC has been in other venues that also looked less regal then Manhattan Center. I thought this venue was a great choice. And it was clean, which was very much appreciated. The attendants in the ladies' rooms kept everything very neat continuously, and this might be a first in any dance competition.
    I can certainly understand that lighting conditions in the ballroom for photography is a concern, but isn't it partly due to the earlier rule change for all USADance comps where people are not supposed to use flash and professional lenses...?
    Competition was very well run, sound was great, prompt recall information, only very minor delay and never any confusion about the order of the events
  14. Bailamosdance

    Bailamosdance Well-Known Member

    Ugh. Well,if you can't tell your own mom how rude that is, and that politeness is requested here, then I suppose that no amount of peer pressure or security folk will change this way of dealing with us. Perhaps isolating those from these less developed countries would make a more pleasant experience for the majority. Maybe it is cultural for some folks, but it is not my culture, and it is not acceptable...
  15. Mr 4 styles

    Mr 4 styles Well-Known Member

    HHAHHHHAHHHHHAA they are the majority!!!

    well at least in youth and some adult categories they are:)
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  16. mindputtee

    mindputtee Well-Known Member

    I don't know if space would allow, but what about a "family changing room" where parents can help their kids and not be in the way of others?
  17. dlliba10

    dlliba10 Well-Known Member

    It would probably depend on the availability of space whatever venue you're dealing with, but that sounds like an excellent idea.

    EDIT: Just read that you led with a disclaimer about space allowing it. Blerg. I know how to read.
  18. Casayoto

    Casayoto Member

    You just need security to have the authority to escort people off the premises for violating rules. Get out of the dressing room, or leave the comp. I kicked a 17/18 year old's mom out of the dressing room and she was back five minutes later.
  19. Joe

    Joe Well-Known Member

    I know people keep repeating this "rule" but I am quite familiar with the rulebook and there is no such rule. There was such a rule instituted for Nationals, but it would not apply to every other USA Dance comp.
  20. Bailamosdance

    Bailamosdance Well-Known Member

    Really? When I asked about using my flash or my camera at the MAC (actually in this thread!) I was told very specifically that they did not allow it.

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