Ballroomization of argentine tango?

Discussion in 'Tango Argentino' started by opendoor, Apr 9, 2013.

  1. sixela

    sixela Active Member

    Oh I'm _sure_ that on 1951 D'Arienzo they'll dance completely differently (not).
     
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  2. opendoor

    opendoor Well-Known Member

    ..but you should dance rooted or at least grounded!
     
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  3. JohnEm

    JohnEm Active Member

    Then someone should tell the milonga organisers of Buenos Aires
    that this so-called outlawing of the backstep needs to be enforced.
     
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  4. Bailamosdance

    Bailamosdance Well-Known Member

    A 'step' 'outlawed'? This, in the dance that has no steps and no rules?
     
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  5. UKDancer

    UKDancer Well-Known Member

    Yes, that's the one!
     
  6. Lilly_of_the_valley

    Lilly_of_the_valley Well-Known Member

    My impression is that those competitions are mostly for people who cannot dance, but look for acceptance in the tango world, and need to be validated somehow.
     
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  7. twnkltoz

    twnkltoz Well-Known Member

    I remember the last time I danced with a leader who took a step backward in the line of dance. The police came rushing in, the whole milonga stopped, and he was hauled away. We've never seen him since. I was forced to stand on a scaffold with a scarlet B pinned to my chest for the rest of the evening just for having been the one dancing with him. It's taken me years to get over the shame and guilt. I am only just now beginning to rebuild, and the newer dancers who don't know any better are inviting me to dance. I can only hope that in another 10 or 20 years' time, I can finally put it behind me.
     
  8. UKDancer

    UKDancer Well-Known Member

    That would be wannabe authentic AT teachers with a passport, then?
     
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  9. Lilly_of_the_valley

    Lilly_of_the_valley Well-Known Member

    Wannabe AT teachers for sure. not sure what you mean by authentic.
     
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  10. Bailamosdance

    Bailamosdance Well-Known Member

    How did you form this impression? Are the competitors not good dancers? How then do they succeed in competition?
     
  11. twnkltoz

    twnkltoz Well-Known Member

    Oh, dear. Now you've gone and done it.
     
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  12. Lilly_of_the_valley

    Lilly_of_the_valley Well-Known Member

    Few of the competitors are good dancers, actually.
    How they succeed in competition and what the competition is about is the point of the discussion.
     
  13. Lilly_of_the_valley

    Lilly_of_the_valley Well-Known Member

    What has she done?
    What is wrong about discussing the statement "if a person won/placed high in a tango competition he or she must be good at tango" ?
     
  14. Lilly_of_the_valley

    Lilly_of_the_valley Well-Known Member

    You mean with a diploma? yeah, something like that :)
     
  15. Bailamosdance

    Bailamosdance Well-Known Member

    LOL I still dont get it. You are saying these people enter competitions and cannot dance?
     
  16. Lilly_of_the_valley

    Lilly_of_the_valley Well-Known Member

    Yes, many of them are not good tango dancers.
    And those who are, do not dance their best because of the restrictive format.
     
  17. twnkltoz

    twnkltoz Well-Known Member

    Because now we're going to get the "winning competitions doesn't make a good dancer" argument and the "that's not tango" discussion.
     
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  18. Lilly_of_the_valley

    Lilly_of_the_valley Well-Known Member

    I'll tell you more. Some people who are horrible, truly horrible tango dancers, teach. And they have people taking their classes.
     
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  19. Lilly_of_the_valley

    Lilly_of_the_valley Well-Known Member

    It seems new to bailamosdance, so why not. ;)
     
  20. UKDancer

    UKDancer Well-Known Member

    As long as we are talking of tango as a social dance, then I wholeheartedly agree that competition success is very unlikely to make a good dancer, and that the sort of dancing that wins competitions is useless to social dancers.

    There's nothing wrong with being an entertainer, of course, and competitive success sets you up for performance - but I want to dance tango, not watch someone else perform.
     

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