boriken, you have very eloquently put into words the gripe I have with so many people (including my "lady love," as you would say :wink: ) who feel that sequences must be taught to beginners. For example, a couple of weeks ago I was dancing with my girl at a ballroom social. It was great, because I rarely ever get a chance to just anonymously social dance waltz, foxtrot, or tango, without being on the job or having the "teacher" label applied to me. While social dancing salsa can be challenging in a crowd, of course, dances that travel such as the ones I mentioned are much much (much) harder for the leader to navigate. She made a remark to me about how I should have a routine to follow, that way I don't have to think about improvising and can focus on navigating. I wanted to slap her (not literally). I'm thinking, "this is the greatest way to learn how to really dance--in a social setting with real obstacles (like real-life couples who are doing a box step on the outskirts of a ballroom floor, in the middle of traffic--yikes!), real music, and real lead and follow. I hate routines. Bleh. But then again, is it perhaps necessary for some people to learn routines to begin with (esp. the man), until they are comfortable enough to be "on their own" ?