Hmm, I really don't see a difference between these two sombreros, except that maybe the second one is ended with a more standard dile que no. The only difference in timing is that the first one is danced on3 and the second one on1 (whilst both of course being casino). A lot of cubans dance the rueda on3, and that's what always causes problems when we try to dance a rueda with many people in it. The leader is usually cuban, so we dance on3, but then finnish people join, and they join on1. And that's when the **** hits the fan.