Expectations for syllabus and open dancers

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by cantskiforlife, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. Hmm, I just heard that a lot of franchise and mom/pop studios do this in some manner or other. Does anyone have comments on these current systems?
     
  2. etp777

    etp777 Active Member

    Think you'd be talking about how we test out of syllabus levels at FADS. Have a list of expectations (haven't seen a score sheet in more than a year, so don't remember details, though I'll be testing again sometime this month. not sure when. :D).

    But say for begginer to intermediate bronze. Was expected to know steps 1 and 2 in each of my dances danced with my pro. Was expected to be able to do at least one of them by myself. Was expected to be able to dance along to music, have some basic, frame, form, etc (started out tester just put on some music for each dance and had us dance to it, nothing in particular). Now at least some of these things of course have to be objective. But in end, comes up with numeric score. Also three levels of the test, if memory serves. NeilsenE broke it down in another thread. Normal test, honors, and double honors. Or something like that. First two are for students, top is what they expect of teachers (adds in everything, plus lead and follow parts).

    Sorry I'm fuzzy on details, but yeah, in end they have numerical judgement of your dancing based on several points, and rate it against what a syllabus dancer of that level shoudl know. Allows for variations in focus (ie, I haven't spent as much time on styling as I have on technique. Not as flashy on floor, but, hopefully, cleaner dancing), while still leaving an overall framework to judge everyoen against. Certainly not perfect, but it's one solution.
     
  3. dragon3085

    dragon3085 New Member

    I have an issue with this. That being, define excell? almost any physical technical skill can be improved on no matter how long you have practiced it, so at point do you decide you have "excelled"? By what criteria do we judge "excelled"? Its a subjective term and people with use it differently. I prefer either the point system or the system where after you take first you get booted up to the next level.
    This way people can't stay in say bronze competition for 10 years, if they are doing that they need to be pushed on to the next level. Some people just want to win so they stay at a certain level and become essentially a ringer. This is both selfish on their part and unfair to the true beginners or intermediates or other that actually belong at that level.

    Just my 2 cents,
    Patrick


     
  4. cantdance

    cantdance Member

    Characteristics of the different levels (bronze, silver, gold)

    Assuming the levels are based on a dancer's ability, and not the step patters, what would you consider to be the technical characteristics of a bronze level dancer vs. a silver level dancer? Or asked a different way, when judging, what things are you looking to see at each level?

    Just wondering...
     
  5. pinkstuff

    pinkstuff Member

    Dont know if this is of much help - do you mean competing or exams?? Where I am,definitely mostly technique but also new steps allowed at different levels.
     
  6. Terpsichorean Clod

    Terpsichorean Clod Moderator

    Merged threads :)
     
  7. Smooth Dancer

    Smooth Dancer Active Member

    The problem with B-S-G-like levels seems to be when they become barriers. For example, a bronze student ready for some "silver" technique who holds themselves back (or is held back) because they are "not out of bronze yet." Or, conversely, a "silver" student who ignores the basic (i.e., bronze) steps because they are "beyond that." Granted, the levels are indespensible for competition, and useful in a context for training, but I don't think they should build walls.
     
  8. MissKitty

    MissKitty New Member

    Wow it all seems so confusing.....

    Dancer from New Zealand here, the way your grading works seems so confusing to me! Ours is completely different!

    Firstly there are different age groups, all amateur:

    Juvenile (under 12)
    Junior (13 - 16)
    Youth (16-19)
    Adult (16 up)
    Senior (35 up)

    Dancers aged 16-19 can dance both youth and adult, and dancers aged 35 and up can dance both adult and senior.

    In each age group there are 5 levels (grades) 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5

    Level 1 is new/beginner couples, and Level 5 is the highest level excluding professional.

    Every couple is allowed to compete in their current grade, the next grade up, and any open events. To move up to the next grade you must win your own grade 6 times OR win the grade ABOVE you (subject to their being at least 6 couples on the floor)

    E.g. we are a level one couple and have won our grade 3 times. To move up to level two we either have to win level one 3 more times, or win a level 2 event. Open events do not affect levels.

    Hopefully this makes sense!

    Im guessing Level 1 is similar to your Bronze. You would expect to see couples dancing in time with the music, a tidy frame, a good grasp of action (e.g. bounce in Samba) and developing technique.
     

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