Favorite Waltz Music

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by DanceMentor, Feb 22, 2004.

  1. Al Gisnered

    Al Gisnered Member

    For social dancing (choreography on the fly) or competition (set choreography to strict tempo) I agree. I've wondered, though, if it matters that much for a showcase. If a singer or orchestra can negotiate tempo changes, why can't a dancer?

    It would take some analysis and some practice, but if it truly follows beautiful music... Why not?
  2. danceislove

    danceislove New Member

    *bump*
    I'm looking for a fantastic waltz song for a showcase routine any new suggestions??? :D
  3. NielsenE

    NielsenE Active Member

    I really love the song Greenwaves, the version done by Secret Garden on "Once in a Red Moon". Its slightly different than the one played at some competitions; this version has a few retards in the opening that I think would be nice to play with in a showcase.
  4. and123

    and123 Well-Known Member

    "retards"? :confused: :p
  5. NielsenE

    NielsenE Active Member

    Isn't that the proper musical term for when they stretch the bar?
  6. and123

    and123 Well-Known Member

    Well, whaddaya know. So it is. That's a new one to me. I thought you made some sort of wild typo up there. I have no formal music training. Sorry!:oops:
  7. SlowDancer

    SlowDancer New Member

    The musical term is spelled "ritard" with an I.
  8. White Chacha

    White Chacha Active Member

    It's short for the Italian "ritardando".
  9. Peaches

    Peaches Well-Known Member

    Well, without hearing the music, and not being completely up on my musical terminology...

    I'd wager that the slowing and stretching of the time signature are probably various fermatas (holds), instead of ritardandos. The difference, IIRC, is that a ritard. is a gradual, even slowing throughout the measure (or measures), whereas a fermata is a holding of a particular note/beat/whatever, while what comes before and after is generally at tempo. Again, IIRC. Cornutt or I_J would probably know better.

    I don't see why, if you're doing it for a showcase and therefore have the ability to plan the choreography around the music, you couldn't use it anyway. Granted, I've never done a showcase and have no experience with choreography, so what do I know? (Answer: nothing.)
  10. Al Gisnered

    Al Gisnered Member


    Answer: Quite a lot. Isn't choreography supposed to be the selection and arrangement of movements to interpret and illuminate a piece of music? If, for example, whole orchestras can follow changes in tempo or if singers can stretch notes and phrases while the orchestra waits for them, why can't dancers follow such variations?

    One of the things I find most unsatisfying about most competition dancing is the competitor's inability to suit the dance to the music. I often see them performing the exact same routine in preliminaries and finals to totally different music in each heat. "Ornaments" and "emphatics" (such as picture lines, spins, and such) which might work wonderfully when performed with the music often end up a measure or two before or after the musical "ornament". So the entire dance seems out of kilter and artificial, rather than an on target and an organic blend of the dance and music. (Sometimes they win anyway.)

    In a showcase, unlike a competition or social dance, you have the chance to analyze a piece of music and arrange the dance specifically for it. Including any tempo changes. You can to put the ornaments in the music and ornaments in the dance together.
  11. Peaches

    Peaches Well-Known Member

    You should try AT. The difference between AT where the focus is specifically on musical interpretation, wher a good leader can play with the music and the rhythm and highlight various things (vocals, beat, an instrument) versus ballroom is just staggering. Even when there's no routine involved, ballroom just feels so...sterile...compared to AT that way. Of course, I still love it, but for other reasons.
  12. danceislove

    danceislove New Member

    *highjack alert*
    i keep monitoring this thread looking for good waltz songs, but the conversation has evidentally taken a turn......
  13. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    me too, however, there are also some excellent waltzes in our dance song directory as well
  14. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    top right...dance music guide
  15. Peaches

    Peaches Well-Known Member

    Well, what kind of a feel are you looking for? Do you prefer the classic tunes (Fascination, my version is by Al Martino, IIRC), or alternative stuff (She's Leaving Home, by The Beatles--although it's fast, or You Make Me Feel (Like a Natural Woman) by Aretha Franklin)? Do you like syncopation (Buster Keaton, by Childsplay) or not? Something mid-tempo, or very slow, or verry fast? A standard of ballroom waltzing that everyone loves, or do you want to find something new and unusual? What feel are you going for with your showcase? Do you have any theme in mind?
  16. danceislove

    danceislove New Member

    We are looking for a faster waltz, but not quite viennese. Something with playful music that lots of lifts could be choreographed to (crescendos and the like). Very open to unconventional music, but want the overall feel of the song to upbeat (not depressing or sad) like the couple is in love.
    haha any suggestions? :D
  17. Medira

    Medira New Member

    So She Dances - Josh Groban
    Si Volvieras a Mi - Josh Groban
    My, My, My - Rob Thomas
    Runaway - The Corrs (probably too fast, but it's a beautiful love song)
    I'll Be - Edwin McCain
    Mystery Man - Lesley Pike

    If these are too fast or not what you're looking for, let me know and I'll see what else I can come up with. :)
  18. hamstersphere

    hamstersphere New Member

    I saw someone do a demo to 'Dreaming My Dream' from the Cranberries and thought it was a really wonderful (but unconventional) waltz ...
  19. NielsenE

    NielsenE Active Member

    yeah, that's a wonderful one (actually they have a lot of amazing nonconventional music for swings, foxtrots, rumbas, etc...
  20. danceislove

    danceislove New Member

    Just fyi we are going with Mandy Moore, Only Hope it suits what we want to do very well :) Thanks for all of your help!

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