Is Pro Am becoming a sport of only the wealthy?

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by debmc, Jul 5, 2013.

  1. 3wishes

    3wishes Well-Known Member

    Is the sport becoming more for the wealthy? Interesting replies, views and posts DebMc.
    I can say, knowing several in various dicsiplines not just ballroom "what the market will bear" seems to be in the mix.
    I can also say, having close friends whose Dear Significant Other (if there is one) is typically in very high paying professions and the DSO has no idea his/her partner/husband/wife is dancing their feet off - only the SO is quite happy.
    Having had a job where I was on jets/hotels/strange places/ I'm not one for the nuances of new dresses, comps every time I turn around, hotels, etc.
    I am one to practice practice practice, and the quality of my lesson is ultimately my choice. There are other things in my life that will take priority in terms of time, focus, travel, money, that while Dance is a passion, I can still remember decades ago, my circle of dance buddies saying, "yeah, they look the part,,,but can't dance worth a lick of salt"...lol, wink!
    It's all in what a person deems is important to them - regardless of hobbies, passions, outside interests.
    My husband said, awhile ago, "geezzz if they thought that horseracing was the sport of kings,,,they need to take another look at the cost of Pro/Am Dancing/Ballroom Comps!" (he should know, we use to have racehorses).
    It made me laugh,,,,but I'm content,,,,with a few lessons, 1 or 2 comps if that sometimes 3 or 4, and just working on improving my own dancing for myself when and if finances agree.
    Is there anything that can make it easier/affordable for pro/am in the future? who knows....I'm pretty sure every sport, every enthusiast wishes that for their own avenues in life.
     
  2. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    for me it is a formula...I can reluctantly tolerate pricey if it is a big successful comp where there will be not only a lot of competition, but a lot of high quality competition... then, and only then, is 50 bucks a heat going to work for me....and if there are a few of those in a year, there won't be much else going on...that being said, I don't begrudge others with more income than myself their decision to do more...I also don't find their presence at a comp more imposing than anyone else's as I only see a minor correlation between that and success
     
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  3. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    me too...(not go there next year, but would be there if I could be)
     
  4. danceronice

    danceronice Well-Known Member


    Yep. Add in that how much other students perceive expense matters--my pro's flat-out said regarding some competitions, he likes them or would like to try them, but he won't have enough students willing to travel to make it cost-effective for everyone (including him.) Not having to fly (or in my case take the train) is a major factor--I don't want to pay a lot for travel, and having to pay even more for the heats on top of that doesn't encourage me to go. The farther I have to go, the less I dance because the more I'm going to have to spend on hotels and meals and gas/plane/train tickets.
     
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  5. dancelvr

    dancelvr Well-Known Member

    Bingo. :)
     
  6. Wannabee

    Wannabee Well-Known Member

    I agree with you on every point. By me saying that I can't "compete" with their money, I meant it more along the lines of teaching myself not to begrudge them their indulgence and dwell on how nice it would be to fly from one comp directly to another, having a dress in every color for every style, things like that, things mostly not even related to the actual dancing.
     
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  7. Mr 4 styles

    Mr 4 styles Well-Known Member

    everything

    and perhaps not having children...?
     
  8. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    thanks for clarifying
     
  9. Warren J. Dew

    Warren J. Dew Well-Known Member

    It's certainly not easy. As danceronice points out, you pay in other ways: time, frustration, emotional distress. It's just that money provides much less of an advantage in those areas.
     
  10. DanceMentor

    DanceMentor Administrator

    Pro/am isn't the only way to dance. Paying a pro to train you and compete with you is going to be one of the most expensive ways to go about dancing. There are many other paths to success in dancing including building a career or other financial strategy to help fund your hobby like make dresses organize events or clubs, etc.
     
  11. debmc

    debmc Well-Known Member

    Sure, but I was specifically wondering about ProAm dancing evolving into a sport that only the top wage earners can afford.
     
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  12. LT

    LT Member

    This, yes. It is simply a waste of time to fret over things one has no control over. There are a multitude of things dancers of all levels of means can truly impact as a matter of choice and action. Better dancing will prevail over poorly presented glitz.

    ...of course, if the dancing is equal, glitz can tip the scales... :cool:
     
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  13. Steve Pastor

    Steve Pastor Moderator Staff Member

    Mengu said:
    I do not have unlimited funds, I do not have to starve myself to dance, I am not a top dancer in any category, and yet I am happy. What am I doing right?​

    How about realizing that dance is rewarding in and of itself, and you don't need the approval of anyone but your partner(s)?
    (and maybe you don't even need a partner)​
     
  14. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    lots of things can tip the scales...fairly or unfairly...there is is much to be learned at comps about dancing, about competing, about life, and about oneself
     
  15. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    this is a fair point, even a good point, but also one which then begs a question about why one would choose a competitive venue for it, particularly as regards pro/am
     
  16. waltzguy

    waltzguy Active Member

    From what I see, pro-am is mostly for the wealthy. It is also for those that prefer (or can reasonably find) a pro partner versus amateur. This entire sport is for the wealthy for the most part, or for those who are willing to make sacrifices as described in the previous postings about eating from gas stations.
     
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  17. Steve Pastor

    Steve Pastor Moderator Staff Member

    I "Like" this enough to "repost it." Awesome.
     
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  18. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    re:waltzguy

    meh, I don't want this to turn into the pro am am/am thing...while I do see that pro am is not an ideal path for those with limited means, I think it is not necessarily true that those who have chosen it would not be happy to have an am partner, but that is ANOTHER thread...not this one....In general, I think that there is a good deal of diversity in the thinking, motivation, performance, dedication, etc of pro am dancers, just as there is in am/am dancers, social dancers, etc...
     
  19. Steve Pastor

    Steve Pastor Moderator Staff Member

    'cause not everyone would be satisfied dancing in a wanna be honky tonk in suburban Portland, or [fill in the blank]?

    Seriously, it's maybe just my lack of knowledge, but it seems that there really aren't that many places to really dress to the nines and dance as defined in these competitions.
     
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  20. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    personally, I like those honky tonk places.... :)

    my only real point is that the thread is about the cost of pro am...so, if one is dancing pro/am and one is miserable about the cost, and one has no goal regarding placement, only about improving, there are jillions of ways to do that which are cheaper than competing...then again, for me, it isn't about the dress...
     

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