Ballroom Dance > Manhattan Dancesport Championships - 2008

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by cy_phi, Jun 13, 2008.

  1. Standarddancer

    Standarddancer Well-Known Member

    which events are these? open level? in Street clothes? you got to kidding me...I've only seen colleges dancers changed to street clothings after dancing and go receive awards. For me, still very sloppy to receive awards in street clothes, not respectful to the audience and unprofessional appearance.
  2. Josh

    Josh Active Member

    Welcome to DF dancexxx--

    In my experience the reason two panels give different scores (or different judges on the same panel give very different scores), especially at a beginner/mid level, is that the judges cannot quickly identify a winner, so it becomes a case of "pick whoever you think is best" in a few seconds. If you want consistent judging, outdance your competition on the floor and leave the judges no room to question who was 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc... If someone is CLEARLY better, they'll get pretty consistent marks. If they are pretty similar or only marginally better, then you make the job difficult and you're likely to just blend in and scores tend to be all over the place.

    As for 5 out of 7 judges being "latin" judges... most judges are quite qualified in many different styles and have decades of experience in dancing. It doesn't take a "standard specialist" to pick the best couples, especially at a beginner level, though I don't know what level you're at.
  3. Joe

    Joe Well-Known Member

    I agree. I've tried to educate some of them on the "way things are done" but a few are generally resistant (or slackers). To them, personal comfort is more important than respect.
  4. Larinda McRaven

    Larinda McRaven Site Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, we have many threads based on judging and scoring. A quick search will take you to them.
  5. Jananananana

    Jananananana Active Member

    My only experience with wearing street clothes at college competitions is when the MC announces "Come on guys, you know you want to dance pre-champ rhythm - let's get more couples out there!" and in this sense calls for other people to join in on the floor - almost informally.

    Manhattan was great :-D Can't believe it was the first Manhattan I went to watch...

    PS. Larinda - love the new avatar!
  6. the_thunderbird52

    the_thunderbird52 New Member

    You're opening a can of worms here.
  7. Dancebug

    Dancebug Well-Known Member

    I am guilty of this. The award ceremony is my least favorite part of dance comp. I know when I did not dance well. No need to wait for it to be announced in public. So I normally change to street clothes as soon as dance is over and want to hide during ceremony. I hope my attitude will change once our dance gets better.
  8. jjs914

    jjs914 Active Member

    This strikes me as overly harsh. I would say that, for better or worse, collegiate comps have a different feel to them. I would say the comps have a more casual feel in general (I'm not justifying, but only pointing out that there is a difference).

    Also, many new competitors in college are mimicking what they see from others on their team, and might not actually know any better. As a college student I accepted plenty of awards in street clothes, mostly because that's what the majority of dancers at lower levels did and it didn't occur to me to do otherwise (I'm sure it helps that I was from a school with a smaller team, and fewer advanced dancers who would be trying to step it up).
  9. kimV6

    kimV6 New Member

    and what would i be if you didn't? :)
  10. chrisjohnston

    chrisjohnston Well-Known Member

    The comp is not over until the result is given.Some judges look at the changing of clothes as a mark of disrespect.At Supershag we have stopped students from collecting awards in street clothes as it might work against them in the future.

    Cheers Chris
  11. the_thunderbird52

    the_thunderbird52 New Member

    What is YCN?
  12. DancerForLife

    DancerForLife Member

    YCN stands for the Youth and College Network, and is a subdivision of USA Dance (formerly known as USABDA) that caters to the student (i.e. in school, studying) dancer.

    More information can be found on the USA Dance website, at

    I hope that's what Larinda was referring to... ;-)
  13. Standarddancer

    Standarddancer Well-Known Member

    yes right!!! It is also disrespect to judges not only to the audience and might work against your mark in the future. Also not pretty picture that people have that supershag headshots in street clothes instead of comp outfit.
  14. Standarddancer

    Standarddancer Well-Known Member

    I agree college comp does have a more casual feeling as general. I enjoy this casual feeling as I don't need to spend time and money shop for a nice evening gown or expensive dressup outift to attend evening champ events like some of the NDCA fancy hotel comps. I do enjoy dressed in my comfy sports outfit and sneakers to attend, but if I'm performing, I would be in gown and have hair updo with makeup just to show respect.

    The difference is there for a more affortable event and friendly atmosphere, doesn't mean dancers dress down down for open level or receiving awards.
  15. chrisjohnston

    chrisjohnston Well-Known Member

    You are correct about the headshots.You would not believe how many people in the industry get their info from our site.

    Cheers chris
  16. Standarddancer

    Standarddancer Well-Known Member

    Is this fixed now?
  17. Katarzyna

    Katarzyna Well-Known Member

    no not fixed, i actually emailed them today to ask
  18. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

  19. latingal

    latingal Moderator Staff Member

    nice pics sam!
  20. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    thanks, LG

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