In another post I got the idea that some leaders do a "real" syncopation in milonga, and I am curious about that. If this is a regular milonga step pattern: x.x.x.x. or 220.127.116.11, some teachers say that adding a step (a syncopation) gives traspie, like this: x.x&x.x. or 1.2&3.4. That is to say that traspie is a 3-count movement: 2&3, or maybe 4&1. (I hate these types of representations). That may be a syncopation to a dancer, but not to a musician. To a musician a syncopation is not adding a step, but shifting the emphatic beat to an unexpected place. It's not just adding a subdivided beat. The musicians syncopation leads to the habanera rhythm: x..xx.x. or 1..&3.4., by shifting the second beat from "2" off to the next "&". That does not add a step. It just shifts a step from one place in the rhythm to a different place. So, my question is, do any leaders do a traspie by shifting the step, but not by adding a step? I've watched at milongas and on Youtube, but all traspies seem to be done by adding a subdivided step, rather than by shifting the step from the regular beat to a different place. What say you?