Convo started over in the whining thread, but I want my advice all in one place, for easy reference. *grin* And no. I'm not giving advice. I'm seeking it. This started off as the whine -- dating is too complicated. Here's the deal. I'm in one of the stages of dating and have no earthly clue of how to progress from here or how quickly. I'm between the casually going out for drinks stage and the I know who'll be my date for parties stage. Not sure what to call it. The "going on dates" stage, as opposed to the "we're dating" stage. Any words of wisdom, musings, or experiences you care to share? Any and all input is welcome. Don't really have any useful questions. It's just kind of nice to know you're not alone. Oh, and in reponse to your question, sami, when I made my first move (months ago) it was literally a matter of walking up to The Guy, extending my hand and introducing myself. A big deal, because I'd been seeing him casually in the halls for a couple years, so our "relationship" was already defined as a "person I speak to but don't know." Walking up to him and talking to him, directly, changed everything because it threw that definition out the window. It was also scary because, as it turns out, he's very shy and was not at all easy to approach. Very closed body language.