Some of my favourite swing clips

Discussion in 'Videos' started by Siggav, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. pygmalion

    pygmalion Well-Known Member

    A very nice showdance/swing/jazz routine. :) They have very good stage presence and play to the audience better than many others I've seen. :)
     
  2. pygmalion

    pygmalion Well-Known Member

    I knew your shag video from the other day struck a chord, Siggav.

    Here's a clip from the Shag Dance National Championships. Unless I'm mistaken, this is Carolina Shag. mjnemeth, a DFer, does a lot of this dance. Maybe he can take a look and confirm, when he checks in. :cool: Looks like a totally different dance than the one you posted, doesn't it?



     
  3. Mr 4 styles

    Mr 4 styles Well-Known Member

    that max and tessa clip was SIIIIICKKKKKKKK

    tessa is a goddess

    OOMMGG her footwork is soo precise and her balance is uncanny
     
  4. Siggav

    Siggav Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah the clip I posted was collegiate shag. A completely different dance. I was told here that in a dance context that "shag" was a term for a dance that had lots of footwork but very little going on in the upper body. Even balboa fits with that definition.

    Living in the UK though where shag can mean a very different thing it's total innuendo city trying to talk about the dance. What then ask people if they know it/want to dance it
     
  5. pygmalion

    pygmalion Well-Known Member

    And speaking of collegiate shag, check out this cool video that combines vintage video with contemporary dancers doing the same dance to (what appears to be) the same music. Very cool.

     
  6. Siggav

    Siggav Moderator Staff Member

    Really interesting seeing that collegiate shag clip, fun to see the older footage too, hadn't seen that before.

    Adding in now a fun balboa clip that has lots of pure bal with intricate footwork in it as well as bal-swing.

     
  7. Terpsichorean Clod

    Terpsichorean Clod Moderator

    Love the feet! You can't really lead/follow that, can you? :)
     
  8. Siggav

    Siggav Moderator Staff Member

    Well, kind of? As in you could have a social dance that looks like that and I think that they're basically mostly doing lead/follow in that dance but I don't know for sure. Some of the foot stuff is stylings though so not really lead/followed but doesn't really interfere with the lead either.

    Balboa is really subtle with how the intricate footwork is lead but because you have a chest connection you can feel really tiny weight changes and delays and stuff that will help. I'm just a balboa beginner though, social danced it a few times and been to around 5-6 group lessons.
     
  9. Siggav

    Siggav Moderator Staff Member

    An awesome balboa jack n jill, although those two apparently teach together so lucky draw for them.

     
  10. Terpsichorean Clod

    Terpsichorean Clod Moderator

    They seem kinda...gancho like?
    Sounds like Argentine tango (based on my very limited experience). :) I've never danced balboa, but from your description, I wonder if it might have appeal to me as a standard ballroom dancer.
    The first time I saw balboa, I was a very-wet-behind-the-ears ballroom newbie: "Hey, that looks...vaguely like east coast swing. Danced obscenely close..." :eek:
     
  11. Siggav

    Siggav Moderator Staff Member

    You should try it out if you can. The posture is less athletic and more upright than lindy. You are on your axis however despite the chest connection so not like AT can be. Feet are offset so you get the connection just by standing very close.

    You do have a bounce going on in bal which is part of how that intricate footwork syncs up. Ie it's a bit like your leads pulse/bounce is a metronome for the feet. However because of the close connection the pulse doesnt need to be big and obvious. I really enjoy bal. It can feel really relaxing despite the usually rather up tempo


    Bal people are usually super nice as well. The dance isn't as popular as some dances so they're very welcoming and friendly to new dancers in my experience and talking to others
     
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  12. Siggav

    Siggav Moderator Staff Member

    There's a fair bit of AT crossover where I dance and we were just talking about the differences down at the pub recently. I've never done AT but was told it felt a bit like blues footwork and principles done in a balboa hold.

    Back to balboa, the basic footwork is just quick quick slow with the slow being either a down hold or an up hold. Down hold is you basically step into the floor and roll through the foot for the full duration of the slow while an up hold you hover the foot for one pulse or half the slow before putting the foot down. In the most basic styling is just a barely above the floor hover but you can also flick the foot out for it. I've been told not to do any of that yet, just stick to the basic hover to make sure that my basic is really a basic since I'm just starting out.

    Whether its an up or down hold is lead/followable since you can feel that slight hover in your lead in an uphold but the timing is usually quite fast so I find it difficult. Also no way of looking at anyones feet since you're dancing so close, very easy to step on each others toes if you get out of sync.

    Hmmm.. I should probably start up a new thread or dig up an old one about Balboa
     
  13. Steve Pastor

    Steve Pastor Moderator Staff Member

    Two dances are supposed to have developed in Southern California because of crowded dance floors. Balboa is the one that makes sense, supposedly due to extreme crowding as described by Peter Loggings. That West Coast swing developed for the same reason doesn't make sense since you don't even see it on film until the 2nd half of the 50s.
    The close embrace in Balboa is very much like the Argentine Tango close embrace, at least outwardly. I can't comment on whether or not they function the same way. I would have to see on film from the 30s or 40s some of the AT like movements such as ganchos and boleos before I would be convinced that they weren't brought into the dance by comtemporary dancers.
    There ARE written descriptions of Balboa in dance books from the middle decades of the 20th century, but of course they only cover basics.
     
  14. Siggav

    Siggav Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah I find it very plausible that balboa evolved out of crowded dance floors.

    Back to the swing clips, this Skye and Naomi are just awesome. The quality of movement is just brilliant. Also fun to see at the end when they do partner up how what they're dancing is slow lindy which is totally different from WCS and again the music is slow swing music so it all fits and makes sense

     
  15. juwest333

    juwest333 Active Member



    I just realized that you posted the same two people that I am posting in this video. lol!

    I love Skye's style of swing dancing most of all. I hope someday to have that same level of musicality and smoothness in my own swing dancing!
     
  16. bookish

    bookish Active Member

    More Balboa videos! I have a ton of these saved too. The top couples, as with Lindy, definitely stake out their own styles and it's fun to compare.

    Bernard and Ann-Helene are really fun to watch for footwork and legwork. The footwork around 0:38 gets me every time, the other musical interpretation is really cool, and, hey, hat trick:



    Jeremy and Laura bring a different style, more swing moves, maybe a bit "bigger." This could be a good time to mention that what people today call "pure Balboa" is the close-embrace stuff, often with interesting footwork, that doesn't take up a lot of room, and the "Bal-swing" is a mixture of stuff that didn't all used to be called Balboa at all. A lot of it was just "swing" or "L.A. style swing." And it can take up a bit more room, though on average not as much as Lindy.



    Two different teaching couples dancing to the same song. Interesting to compare how they highlight the music and various points.



    Finally, here's an interesting one. I think Max's Lindy background shows through in his style here. The musicality is spot on, and he's got some moves.

     
  17. Siggav

    Siggav Moderator Staff Member

    I have a new one! awesome blues showcase



    I've been on a complete blues dancing kick lately. Went to a great workshop last month and still flying high really
     
  18. Siggav

    Siggav Moderator Staff Member

    Super fun lindy clip, teacher jam. The real treat kicks in at around 4:30 when they start playing around and turn it into a steal jam with hijinks. So much fun to watch and a total treat to see these world class dancers fooling around and playing, social dancing to an awesome live band.

     
  19. Mr 4 styles

    Mr 4 styles Well-Known Member






    benji and torri showdances

    and for the total addict LETS JAM!!!!!!!!!!



    skip to 9:00 for benji and tat!!
     
  20. Siggav

    Siggav Moderator Staff Member

    This is just beautiful, a wedding dance that turns into a jam for the happy couple. Made me realise that a dancer's wedding would probably have somewhat different dancing than most weddings I've been too, esp if a lot of their friends dance too

     
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