Steps for Tango v. Vals v. Milonga

Discussion in 'Tango Argentino' started by Peaches, Jan 13, 2007.

  1. Tanguera

    Tanguera New Member

    Welcome to DF, beginners_luck!
  2. elnuevotango

    elnuevotango New Member

    I like to dance Traspie but don't know much about it. Can anyone show me how to practice?
  3. Angel HI

    Angel HI Well-Known Member

    The definition of the word is "misstep" whether to stutter or to trip. It is more a style than a technique and, thus, is difficult to place an exercize to. However, try this.

    Take a 6 step basico (side-front-front-side-close-step [forward or back depending upon whether dancing man/woman]). Now dance steps 1-2-1-4-5, for example. This is side-front-back-side-close). Now dance it in the rhythm of slow-slow-and-slow-slow (where and is a quick step). Now dance it in the rhythm of slow-slow-and-slow-and. If you now add the original last step #6 (forward/back depending) as a final slow, you get a nice traspie. Dance the basic 6, then the first exercize, the basic 6, the third exercize, and finish with the basic 6. It gives you a wonderful feeling of traspie.

    Of course, there are others (combinations). Try some. Bonne chance et bienvenue aux DF.
  4. newbie

    newbie Active Member

    For whatever it's worth, an BsAs teacher told me that by moving (not trying to do tango/milonga steps) on milonga music and on the toes (or at least the front part of the foot), the traspie will come by itself. She does that when practising/warming-up at home.
  5. dchester

    dchester Moderator Staff Member

    For me, the steps I would use in Milonga are a subset of what I would use in Tango (basically, there is nothing new in Milonga that I couldn't do in Tango). However, the "feel" of Milonga is much different, (more playful, maybe less serious). Also, I do not do pauses in Milonga, (like I would in Tango). I step on every beat, and occasionally do "quick steps" or traspies.

    Vals for me is similar in "feel" to Tango, but the rhythm is different (3 quick steps for one slow step), which modifies (and I suppose restricts) which steps I can do to it.
  6. Angel HI

    Angel HI Well-Known Member

    Note of caution...the OP did not ask for milonga or vals. He/She asked about traspie. Though the posts are good, they seem to imply that traspie only occurs in milonga. Re dchester's post, it is good to note also that, though there are similarities between all 3 dances, each is danced with its own unique technique and style, and is not really just a slower or quicker version of tango.

    The exercize that I offered above is just something that we have used in the learning/developing of traspie regardless of the dance.
  7. elnuevotango

    elnuevotango New Member

    Tk u, Angle HI. I've tried your exercise. I think it's good exercise for beginner.

    More, I really meaned the traspie in Milonga :)
  8. TangoDiary

    TangoDiary New Member

    Move to another topic
  9. Angel HI

    Angel HI Well-Known Member

    You are welcomed. Glad it helped. It will also work, in the very same manner, for milonga. Know that, of course, the syncopations will take on a quicker (almost Salsa feel) movement. This will require a correct and controlled balance (weight on the flat of the balls of the feet), and a well maintained center (body position).
  10. Angel HI

    Angel HI Well-Known Member

    Excuse us?
  11. TangoDiary

    TangoDiary New Member

    I have a question about close embrace. I think that should move it to another topic.

    I also have questions on Milonga, but later.

    Sorry for bothering.
  12. dchester

    dchester Moderator Staff Member

    Why not just post your question?
  13. Ampster

    Ampster Active Member

    Welcome to DF. You're not being a bother. Go ahead and post your different questions on your different topics as (NEW) so they don't muddle together.
  14. Angel HI

    Angel HI Well-Known Member

    TangoDiary,

    Here is the place to post your questions. Some of the best will try to help you. Your first post was a wee ambiguous, but you are welcomed.
  15. TangoDiary

    TangoDiary New Member

    Okie, I'll post my question:

    Is there any difference between the double step & traspie in Milonga?
  16. Angel HI

    Angel HI Well-Known Member

    Not certain what you mean by "the" double step. This would indicate that you are referring to a specific step. Traspie, or the "misstep", is, in kind, a double step, but is better thought of as a contratiempo or syncopated beating of a step. Traspie is not only a step; it is also a style, and isn't always done with just a double step. Sometimes, it is found/created in other movements.
  17. Peaches

    Peaches Well-Known Member

    ...one of these days I really should take a workshop on traspie...

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