Actually, I kind of like Gary and Susan. Talk about your 3-dimensional. But what's that got to do with Modern? It's part of what makes good Smooth. I believe completely that Toni Redpath would coach that. But can you point to something you see in S&M that reflects Redpath coaching? I envy you your work with her, and your ability to see this. 'Cos I sure can't. On second thought, should we take this offlist? B/c I'm not sure it isn't too far off topic.