The stylistic mixing of Smooth & Standard -- current trend

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by samina, Dec 2, 2012.

  1. dlliba10

    dlliba10 Well-Known Member

    FWIW, if David Hamilton feels comfortable calling Slawek "one of the best American Smooth boys that has ever danced this style," I'd trust his opinion.

     
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  2. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    Maybe it could be called "The New Smooth" style. Clearly, there are those who like it, and it's thriving.
     
  3. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    IME...no. But I've put a sharp enough point on what I had to say, myself. Am still curious to hear more from teaching & judging pros.
     
  4. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    I think, like every style, like every political leaning, the thing wobbles from one direction to another depending upon who is currently in the field....Donna Edelstien once described her process as a matter of choosing between Steak or Lobster...that it was not a matter of which was better or worse, but rather, a matter of what one had a taste for on that particular night...I sort of like the analogy...and I very much like her
     
  5. dlliba10

    dlliba10 Well-Known Member

    I don't think I could choose between steak and lobster. Too much yummy both ways.
     
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  6. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    Good analogy, I think it applies.
     
  7. dbk

    dbk Well-Known Member

    I'd say there is just as much a "New Standard" as a "New Smooth," although the timelines may be different. The Standard of today certainly doesn't look like it did in the past. Dance styles change, evolve, trend, etc.
     
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  8. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    Yes, tis true indeed, that.
     
  9. Lyra

    Lyra Active Member

    Re DJs versus tails, there are certainly men who dance Standard in DJs in the UK and Europe, but in competition I would say that the majority still wear tails. I don't have strong feelings on the matter tbh. I would however, much, much rather see a man in a well-fitting, well tailored DJ than badly fitting tails that they've got on the cheap. Sadly there are too many of the latter around.

    I've very little knowledge of Smooth so I can't really comment on the "Standardisation" of Smooth, other than to say I think that it would be a shame. One of the great things about dancing for me is that we have so many distinctive styles - I would hate to see them merge into an amorphous mass. Evolution is different and I'd see that as a good thing, but I really don't have enough knowledge to know if that's what's going on here.
     
  10. jjs914

    jjs914 Active Member

    I like this a lot too! I was in no way trying to say that I don't like Slawek and Marzena or that I don't find them to be extremely talented. Simply commenting that I find there are others who draw me in emotionally as a spectator.
     
  11. Larinda McRaven

    Larinda McRaven Site Moderator Staff Member

    Actually shadow turning to the left is an entirely different position than shadow turning to the right. The hold you describe is close to shadow turning to the left. And I would call it more or less a promenade position for you. Promenade turning right is nothing of the sort close to a standard hold.
     
  12. Mr 4 styles

    Mr 4 styles Well-Known Member

    working on getting the wife to let me dance with marzena LOL

    and you wont meet an nicer couple !!!
     
  13. Mr 4 styles

    Mr 4 styles Well-Known Member

    that is the beauty of the american styles right now everyone is "new" and different no two couples in the top seven either style are alike its a feast to the eyes enjoy!!!
     
  14. Mr 4 styles

    Mr 4 styles Well-Known Member

    was hitting the wall during HIIT for arms this morning . kept reciting this to my self !!! thanks Larinda!!!
     
  15. dlliba10

    dlliba10 Well-Known Member

    That would explain the difficulty of my Open Rights in Viennese ...
     
  16. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    have always been of a mind that puking is not an exception...not much can be done about the fainting or dying....
     
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  17. Mr 4 styles

    Mr 4 styles Well-Known Member

    just has a"surf and turf" roll at a innovative asian restaurant spicy lobster roll with slice of medium well filet on top and dipping sauces No choosing here ill take BOTH!! LOL
     
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  18. Mr 4 styles

    Mr 4 styles Well-Known Member

    lol both are avoidable however, well at least theoretically up to a point LOL
     
  19. dbk

    dbk Well-Known Member

    I don't know if a spectator's emotional reaction is necessarily a good criteria for labeling something "Smooth" or not. I feel more of an emotional reaction too, and feel more of a connection between, some Standard couples - even beyond some Smooth couples... does that make their dancing more "Smooth"? I don't think so; it just variation in the expression of the dance.
     
  20. smidra86

    smidra86 Active Member

    I think Travis and Jaimee Tuft have a good balance of closed and open in their smooth and tend to stick close to the "smooth" style.
     

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