Ballroom Dance > Throwaway oversway

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by etale, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. skwiggy

    skwiggy Well-Known Member

    Great example, pruthe! Does anyone have a good pic of an x-line so we can see the difference?
  2. QPO

    QPO New Member

    searched a few pages on Google but could not find anything that would be genuine...anyone have a dance DVD that might show an example I would certainly like to see the difference.
  3. Warren J. Dew

    Warren J. Dew Well-Known Member

    I have it on an old video but it is edge on - that wouldn't be very useful.

    And, I realized that there's yet another X line, where both partners are on their left feet and the lines run from head to toe of each person.
  4. dancepro

    dancepro Member

    The X-line is an "old" international standard step. I guess, you need to of a certain age, be trained by the "old" greats or have an interest for the history to know the X-line. It is not danced very often any more. I have never seen any couples in the US dance the X-Line.

    I have been looking for my written exam's papers as I wrote about lines and positions. I know that I did a drawing of the X-Line in my final essay. I have not been able to find the box, where those papers are in, as of yet. It was many years ago, so it might take a little time.

    The picture that pruthe came up with is a great example of a Throwaway Oversway.

    According to my teacher the X-Line can be done both in Promenade and in Counter Promenade.

    X-Line in Promenade: The couple are in Promenade Position (1/4 difference between the hips and the feet of the man and lady). The man has all of his weight on the RF pointing the LF to the side (straight leg). The Lady has all of her weight on the LF pointing the RF to the side (straight leg).

    X-Line in Counter Promenade: The couple are in Counter Promenade Position. The man has all his weight on the LF and the RF is pointing to the side (straight leg). The lady has all of her weight on the RF and the LF is pointing to the side (straight leg).

    The picture that QPO came up with does look more like a X-Line in CPP then a Throwaway Oversway.....or let me say it like is not the best Throwaway Oversway in the world. What Andrew and Lorraine is doing, is much, much better. I would so far as to say "world class";)

  5. star_gazer

    star_gazer Active Member

    I had this on my desktop. OK...its definitely not world class and probably not even technically correct but it looks like an X to me and its kinda cute.

    Attached Files:

  6. Dancebug

    Dancebug Well-Known Member

    Mirko and Alessia demonstrate X-line in the following DVD set:

  7. Laura

    Laura New Member

    My last Amateur partner and I had one. Unfortunately we only danced in about three competitions before he retired to go work on his PhD. I still miss him.
  8. dancepro

    dancepro Member

    I am sorry I missed the 3 times you danced the X-Line:(. I am not able to make it to every competition in the US. There are just about one every weekend and sometimes 2 or more on the same weekend. Maybe you have a picture of you in the X-Line that you can post???

  9. dancepro

    dancepro Member

    Maybe they are dancing the X-Line this weekend in SF at the comp there. Maybe somebody can ask a DF'er to take a photo of them doing the X-Line, if the still do the line in their show.

  10. star_gazer

    star_gazer Active Member

    I can't edit the post I made earlier but I just want to say that I am commenting on the picture I attached not the Sinkinson picture.

    How do you embed pictures as opposed to attaching them?
  11. etp777

    etp777 Active Member

    I have video of throwaway ovesway being done wrong, if anyone wants. ;)

    well, I'm donig it wrong, don't think pro is.
  12. star_gazer

    star_gazer Active Member

    I would ask my daughter to take a photo but I'm guessing they don't allow photos.
  13. dancepro

    dancepro Member

    If your daughter ask them after the show to do a pose for her and ask for the pose to be an X-line, I am sure they will do it for her. No harm in asking.

  14. dancepro

    dancepro Member

    I have both video's and picture of my partner and I doing baaddd lines. I actually used to have all the pictures of bad positions on the wall in the upstairs hallway. I had a sign hanging just above as you entered the hallway, were it said "Hall of Shame". ;)

  15. Laura

    Laura New Member

    Nope, no pictures...and we were pretty...let's just say 'unskilled' or very it wouldn't have been a very good one anyway (unless you wanted it for the Hall of Shame)!
  16. elisedance

    elisedance New Member

    dance pro - I asked my pro about the X line the other day, he showed it to me and described it as stopping half through a bombshell... If we add it to our routine will you come to canada to see it :)
  17. etp777

    etp777 Active Member

    Dancepro, I don't go quite that far, but definitely keep both good and bad videos and pcitures around so I can see both. I want to know when I'm doing something right, but also when I'm doing it wrong, so I can fix it. Like showcase with that throwaway, I know that while I did alright showcase/performance wise, lacking in actual tango technique. So been doing a LOT of workign going through every measure of that showcase, step tby step, to try to improve it.
  18. dancepro

    dancepro Member

    I use to go to bed laughing as the last thing I would see was the baaddd picture of my partner and I in our worst positions. I was thinking of starting a new "hall of shame" in the studio. I like laughing at myself doing silly things, but maybe my sense of humor is a little strange, so I am not sure it would be a good idea.

  19. etp777

    etp777 Active Member

    Heh, I like to be reminded of my mistakes, at least at times. :) Just had annual review at work today, and boss asked, kind of hesittantly, whether I wnated to know from other managers when they had a problem iwith interactions with me. Jumped on that though, as of course I do. Can't improve unless you not only know when you make mistakes, but actually embrace it. Have to accpet you're doing something wrong before you can improve it.

    Well, that's how it works for me anyway.
  20. elisedance

    elisedance New Member

    agreed - either you find out in a good way, or you wait and find out in a bad one... either way, you have to find out...

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