USDC - U.S. Dance Championships

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by samina, Jul 30, 2007.

  1. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    not neccessarily an either/or scenario...I have been to plenty of cheaper comps where the ballroom is still empty for the evening events
  2. croaker

    croaker New Member

    I fail to see the argument for raising the price :p
  3. SDsalsaguy

    SDsalsaguy Administrator Staff Member

    An apt point fascination. The organizers need to calculate how many tickets they project selling at any given price, and then decide which intersection is most likely to cover their costs (criteria #1) and turn a profit (criteria #2).

    [Of course in those cases where an event is being run on a non-profit basis (e.g. college comps, USA Dance, etc.) criteria #2 may even be an afterthought, especially as accessibility to participants becomes a top priority.]
  4. tanya_the_dancer

    tanya_the_dancer Well-Known Member

    I wonder if people who came to watch on Saturday were locals, who perhaps did not compete themselves, and did not have to stay in the hotel, etc. So all their expense was $60.
  5. croaker

    croaker New Member

    I'm sorry, but how is the statement "even at a cheaper price the ballroom was empty" proves a point for expensive tickets? I can't imagine organizers thinking:
    - Oh, we didn't sell this year, what to do, what to do?!
    - I know! We'll increase the price!
    - Then people will come! Brilliant!
  6. tanya_the_dancer

    tanya_the_dancer Well-Known Member

    But this says something about those comps' efforts (or lack of them) to market itself as a spectator event (especially its evening sessions) to local audience. However, local spectating audience is less likely to show up on weeknights for a longer comp.
  7. SDsalsaguy

    SDsalsaguy Administrator Staff Member

    That's not the argument that was being made croaker. Read my post, #423.
  8. Some Day

    Some Day New Member

    That would be me....couldn't afford it otherwise
  9. croaker

    croaker New Member

    Well then, if at a higher price point there're not enough buyers the price should go down,
    no? I still don't see in what light what fascination said can be considered "an apt point"...
  10. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    croaker, is your name really chris? lol...
  11. SDsalsaguy

    SDsalsaguy Administrator Staff Member

    The point is a basic one of economics; simply that more sales as lower price doesn't automatically generate more revenue than lower sales at higher prices. The question is one of intersections between supply and demand at variable price points, and total revenue is what organizers are typically trying to maximize.
  12. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    well...if the place is gonna be empty either way, might as well charge what the already present and largely isolated population is able, not delighted, to spend
  13. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    it didn't look like there was much of that to me tanya...more like spouses of dancers and the like who had been hangin' at the pool the rest of the time
  14. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    they aren't thinking that more will come...they are thinking of what the highest price that isn't a deterrant will be....
  15. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    it seems to me that most organizers do not place a very high priority on that source as their revenue...an arguably wise decision IMO
  16. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    that's good to hear...i would still maintain that there aren't enough folks like you to make an organizer drop the price
  17. fascination

    fascination Site Moderator Staff Member

    b/c your premise presumes that lowering the price will increase the interest...while that may be true of a small local comp though I doubt it, I seriously doubt too many people in orlando are going to high-tail it out to the royal pacific for a night of ballroom dancing...and at a comp like this with fewer locals dancing, they can't even rely upon causual drop-ins...only family members who have travelled with the dancer...meh...we don't need to agree...just my view
  18. reb

    reb Active Member

    Bingo.
  19. etp777

    etp777 Active Member

    You know, i didn't sleep through two semesters of accounting just to hear it all again in here. ;)
  20. syncopationator

    syncopationator Active Member

    If one had to guess where the majority of the spectators come from what would it be?

    1. Pro/am competitors who participated in the day sessions
    2. Family/friends of pros
    3. random spectators

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