Discussion in 'Tango Argentino' started by MadamSamba, Dec 2, 2004.
Luckily you aren't one of those... :kissme:
When you sign for an intermediate class and after the warm-up dance, the teacher does not come to you and say, excuse me, you don't qualify.
or roll his or her eyes
I'd say when you're very comfortable leading/following any partner who's at your level or higher.
When you take any workshop or class on any topic and the instructor doesn't correct your posture or walk at some point in the class.
(making me still a beginner... )
Actually, I observed the reverse. Teachers will always try to correct your posture or your walk, since you're usually dancing your dance and not his/hers, unless there's so much work he/she doesn't know where to start. Argentines are especially likely to do so. Often you do learn something, but that usually doesn't make you dance exactly how they'd expect you to dance.
I think you're not a beginner when at the start of the workshop he/she corrects one thing but gives you more than your fair share of attention in doing so, gives up in the middle, and pats your back with a big smile at the end.
Or at advanced workshops, you are used by a teacher as a partner for demonstrations?
Yay! I'm not a beginner after all!!
Although, if I'm being totally honest, this happened more some years back than recently. I think it had less to do with my own level and more to do with the comparative level of me to others in the classes... and the others caught up eventually.
And I DO still get corrections on my walk and posture.
ONE DAY I'll get them mastered!
It happened to me a couple of times.
Then the teacher said "See, class? This is bad. Now let me show you how to do it."
hmmm I get this with my regular dance partner; she systemises her dancing into "moves" and not following. bloody polymath.
I have often used beginner followers to demonstrate. I was trying to demonstrate to leaders that, if I could lead a beginner through a step, it was not her fault if they could not lead her through the same step.
...And to followers, that if a leader, instead of trying to "instruct" her verbally, just shuts up and leads, it actually would work much, much better
It seems that one can never prove that he/she is advanced.
Who cares, as long as we get to dance with our favorite partners.
It happens all the times during the class. We see pupils having trouble, I lead the follower and it's ok, I say it's not her fault, while the female teacher follows the other pupil and tells him he's ok too.
This is more something we have to tell to our follower pupils. Shut up and follow whatever he may lead, instead of telling him "This is not the sequence" or "With the teacher I am following fine."
The hardest way to learn is with beginners dancing with other beginners. Unfortunately, that's how it typically is done.
I dont see why anyone should have it easier than we did. :tongue:
That's true, the same goes for both parts: blaming and/or instructing the partner will most probably make things worse, not better. It is just around here we mostly see men doing that, but YMMV.
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