Oh Peaches! I'm sorry I didn't check in sooner. I got sidetracked this afternoon with a work project that had a drop-dead deadline of 6:00PM today. I was working until 5:59. I'm so sorry. Good grief. What a day! I hope today is going better (but then how could it possibly be worse? ) I really want you to get your hind parts over to the career thread (What the heck is it called? Office dynamic whatever) and ask some questions. I think that a lot of more people would be willing to pitch in suggestions of things that might help. NURDRMS and Zhena have already gotten off to a good start, IMHO. I will give some thought to the leadership question. (btw NURDRMS, what you said made sense to me.) I also think that a lot of times, people conflate leadership with management or with being a boss, whatever that means. (I think that good leaders have both management and "boss" skills, but that the reverse is not necessarily true. I also think that really good leaders rarely have to use boss skills. they can just ask people to do stuff because, as NURDRMS said, they've created a feeling of ownership in others. But that's just my view.) To me, you have already demonstrated leadership skills. To me, a leader is someone who is willing to be accountable to and responsible for the people she/he is leading. You already do that, P. I think this BC guy may have a point. It's not necessarily leadership you need to learn as much as how to create positive visibility for yourself. That's going to be hard for you, I know, because, from what I know of you, you'd like nothing better than to be left alone in your khuuuube to cozy up to your data sets. The problem is that, while you're cozying up to 99% of the work, NPC is out touting the 1% he did. In the absence of your blowing your own horn, nobody knows for sure how much you're doing and apparently, NPC is not shy about allowing people to think that he's doing more than he is. And on a different note, I'm just curious. Who was at the meeting where loser guy kept telling NPC the answers to your questions? Just the three of you?