Barrel Roll

#22
This. I have one in my choreo.
I looked at my video from last weekend and saw you do that. That's what I've seen referred to as a barrel roll. I've also heard the term barrel roll used to describe any number of pivoting actions where a samba roll type of shaping is used to create an exaggerated shape.
 
#23
Edita dances the lady's steps in the Youtube video
"Maintaining the principles"
from 09:16-09:18

The body rhythm and the group of steps before indicate she demonstrates in Slow Waltz (1&2&3, maybe?).
 

DL

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#24
At this point I lump myself in the "Once I was wrong: I thought I had made a mistake" category. :)

(Somebody mentioned foxtrot for tumble turn, and now that I've seen that comment I think it was an open foxtrot routine I started learning, for which it rang a bell for me.)
 

madmaximus

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#25
Huh...

I remember dropping in on an advanced dancer's lecture by a well-respected San Francisco-based teacher talking about a "Barrel Roll" in the Quickstep.

Can't remember the exact details anymore, but it looked like a reversed curved feather taken as a run into DC, ending with a LF check facing DC against LOD, a man's heel turn to the left taken backing LOD (man's), a tumble turn that featured a face-to-face samba-roll-style move with a slip pivot in there, then ended with a promenade run---something like that.

That was about 18+ years ago... so it's just a little bit hazy, and it was the only time I ever heard about it.

I remember asking a world-class coach about it, and the reaction was (...?)

I'll post details if I can remember the exact moves.





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tangotime

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#26
I remember dropping in on an advanced dancer's lecture by a well-respected San Francisco-based teacher talking about a "Barrel Roll" in the Quickstep.

Can't remember the exact details anymore, but it looked like a reversed curved feather taken as a run into DC, ending with a LF check facing DC against LOD, a man's heel turn to the left taken backing LOD (man's),


I'll post details if I can remember the exact moves.
You already have described it exactly ,as in F/trot ( where it first appeared ) with one exception , no heel turn exit.. it is exited by 4.5.6. of a Rev turn and the entry is syncopated . Its shaped very strongly to the mans left .

PS.. the "check" action is not deep, due to the quick exit, danced S Qand Q
 

vit

Active Member
#28
I checked several DVDs by Mirko Gozzoli, although all of them are with Alessia, his previous partner, before he started dancing with Edita. Unfortunately, barrel roll isn't mentioned anywhere, even in the video Advanced standard ballroom figures, where big number of figures is explained. Closest thing that I could find was actually a kind of double reverse spin, that he danced on some competitions, with strong right broken sway on the first slow and strong left broken sway on QQ, so it looks somewhat similar to barrel roll. Don't know is it that figure or not. However, steps that Edita shown on above mentioned WDSF video are different and there is no hell turn, but a kind of heel pivot on entry to what she described as barrel roll.
 
#29
A barrel roll came up once in an open-level quickstep class I took. I'm trying to decide how to describe it over the internet -- not sure how I'll do, but imagine repeated pivots in roughly the same spot on the floor. I think: for either partner, when taking a forward step with R, one's belt buckle faces the ceiling to the extent possible. When taking a backward step with L, it faces the floor to the extent possible.

Does that make sense at all? Of course it's not a formal technical description; sorry.
Like this?
youtube.com/watch?v=Qc6cUGhshxs&t=2m31s
 

tangotime

Well-Known Member
#31
I . Closest thing that I could find was actually a kind of double reverse spin, that he danced on some competitions, with strong right broken sway on the first slow and strong left broken sway on QQ,
DR " Spin" with SWAY??..

That reminds me of the time when Bill Irvine was asked to cover for a well known coach, with an Amat. couple. He watched their waltz and asked, " Why was there no Sway on your DR ? "... the poor couple didnt know what to answer.. and. he moved on to another dance leaving them confused ( leg pulling at its worst ! ).. no answer to what their coach said afterwards .
 

vit

Active Member
#32
Yes. Well, as you perhaps remember from other forum, I'm much more in salsa than in ballroom now, so I don't know is sway the right word here or not - they are making a strong inclination of upper part of their bodies in direction down the LOD (opposite to what would be normal sway in reverse figures, except of course in double reverse) and it's twice per one double reverse (SSQQ). Reminds somewhat to rolling of the barrel and to that figure in samba

I also have a DVD where the guy is doing some unusual sways in natural spins (I think it's Spectacular shaping by Arunas and Katusha, but have to check) - different than on running spins on youtube video posted by Terpsichorean Clod ... etc
 

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