how are your lessons going? thread II

bia

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Good lesson yesterday. Mostly work on frame/posture/relative positions, which is our perennial theme, but there were a few new ideas and more importantly, a few new ways to think about old ideas that I think will help us actually apply them and maybe hear something truly new someday. Now to see if we can reproduce any of it during practice.
 

JudeMorrigan

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Well, that was quite the busy weekend in terms of lessons.

I had a very nice rumba lesson with my am partner Friday. It was a total back-to-basics sort of lesson that I think we really needed. We did a lot of rumba walks, there was a good bit of emphasis on hitting the accents, it was really just what the doctor ordered.

Saturday I had a trial lesson with a potential am partner for smooth. I'm not going to lie, I'm a little torn here. On one hand, the girl has a fairly serious ballet background and with a bit of training would likely be the best am partner I've ever had by a comfortable margin. She even has the virtue of being genuinely tall. But there's still a measure of frustration with starting over again with someone who is, for now, dancing at a pre-bronze level. Rationally I know that working with her will very much be for the best, but there's still a sense of being on a carosel. I have to be very careful here, not just to avoid expressing frustration with the new girl, but to not let this affect my relationship with my current standard and latin partner. Especially since my instructor is not exactly being subtle about really wanting to see my dance standard with the new girl down the road.

Sunday I had a very nice lesson with my pro instructor. We hit at least a bit on all four smooth dances, and she cleaned up my right side lead some in my tango. It was a nice, productive, drama-free lesson where I felt like I was definatively moving forwards.
 

fascination

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sounds like you are proceeding wisely...

no lessons here for 10 whole days....whine...too busy this week b/c three co-workers are on vacation....and dh and I are doing a 5 day weekend after that to a golf resort and spa...two glorious 80 minute massages booked
 
has a fairly serious ballet background and with a bit of training would likely be the best am partner I've ever had by a comfortable margin. She even has the virtue of being genuinely tall. But there's still a measure of frustration with starting over again with someone who is, for now, dancing at a pre-bronze level.
serious ballet background,,,,,,she will catch up in a month!! ( or close) she wont know what or why but she will know how:p

and as you are tall you gotta take her:cool:

MY KINGDOM FOR A TALL PARTNER!!! :eek: oh wait I found one........ just gotta get the mrs permission to do pro am with her:D
 

JudeMorrigan

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I had what was supposed to be a practice session with Ballet Girl today turn into an impromptu lesson since our instructor was there and apparently bored. I have to say, while there's plenty are simply doesn't know yet (no fault of hers), the stuff she can do with minimal ballroom training is nothing short of ludicrous.
 
Jude, Hang in there with ballet girl. My pro has thrown as much as I can learn in the short time I have been with him and I believe it has been rewarding for both of us, although maybe a bit unconventional. I am working on Champ tech simultaneously as learning the "steps" and terminology. Sometimes we lose track of what patterns I have learned and as he leads me through something complicated and says "Do you know .....?", I can only follow and answer "I do now". But then he does break it down. I was forgetting some of the patterns from week to week because I am learning so fast. But then I started videoing the patterns and now the latin syllabus through gold is mostly learned in about 6 months. BUT I have been working on the proper tech for a samba whisk, rumba walk, etc. for months, too and don't have it yet. That will take years. There are endless corrections. So I am humble. The main thing is that if somebody is an experienced dancer, going through the same lock step training that non-dancers get is not a lot of fun and not what they need. But they don't belong with the big guns either. It is like heaven finding a teacher who is flexible and creative about what a student needs. My pro did not mind teaching me the most basic stuff and still has to, when we discover something "missing". We laugh a lot and I love him for challenging me. Sometimes a ballet dancer needs someone to teach her how to weight shift and unlearn the automatic ballet tech and that is a LOT of work, too and tricky to teach. And of course, to teach her to follow. Maybe the biggest challenge of all! Ha! As an aside, I am thinking of doing my first comp (to be with my new friends), but I don't know what the heck level I am in. If I could compete in rolled up yoga pants and a t-shirt, I might do it. Can I just wear my practice skirt? The thing is, I watched my studio mates at a comp and I could hardly sit still when the music started playing.
 

FancyFeet

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^^ This. Agreed.

As someone who almost dropped ballroom after my first beginner class serial due to boredom, I'm so grateful that I spoke to one of the studio owners first. Now, due to their willingness to be flexible with me, we've found a combination that works. It means standard and latin group classes at the most advanced level offered at our studio when I've never attempted the dance before, and private lessons where we work on standard technique nuances that I'm well aware don't normally get taught to people that have been at this as short of a time as I have.

The challenges: competitions starting when and at what level (and do we wait until I know all 5/10 at a passable proficiency level to do a scholarship, or start with single dances), and finding a patient (and tall) partner that understands the odd progress curve I'm on.

Ballet girl seems to have found the second thing!!
 

danceronice

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It's bad when half the time I know what he's going to say before he says it. Then there's "What if it's pick one?" "I want both!" He'll be happy if I remember either look out or hip back on Saturday. Also, do not wear your fishnets the whole practice. Of course I snag a heel and rip a hole. Though given it kind of works for the look, I might just do a matching hole on the other leg.

This showcase feels different. Were're still tweaking, but not in a bad way. Had a double today and we spent most of it on the showcase and I don't know what the judges will think on Saturday, but it looks good, and if nothing else it's going to be different.
 
I had what was supposed to be a practice session with Ballet Girl today turn into an impromptu lesson since our instructor was there and apparently bored. I have to say, while there's plenty are simply doesn't know yet (no fault of hers), the stuff she can do with minimal ballroom training is nothing short of ludicrous.
Hang in there and be patient with her! I had a partner on my collegiate team who started ballroom a year after I did who caught up to and surpassed me by our first competition a month after she started. It's a shame she had to quit to focus on schoolwork, her jazz/tap/ballet background made her pick up things absurdly fast. It's not a coincidence that a lot of great ballroom girls have a previous ballet background, the training she already has for posture, balance, and extensions will carry her (and therefore you as a couple) far.
 

JudeMorrigan

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Oh, no worries. Grousing aside, the only *real* concern is the potential for studio drama (there're more factors at play than I'm going into, this not being the place for it). But realistically speaking, if I only work with her for six months and never actually compete with her, it'll still be worth doing. And it's not as if she won't have far surpassed me as a ballroom dancer by that time anyways. :)
 

fascination

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first lessons in a few weeks...felt good to be back...physically, I am still feeling pretty beaten up over the past few weeks at my job...and I forgot to eat (didn't have time)...so I wasn't at my best, but it was good to be back and particularly to be working on connection and musicality...which is really the whole ball of yarn as far as I'm concerned :)
 

fascination

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lessons today...more with double spirals...not because I will every use them, but because it will make the singles better.....also musicality...worked; ru, cha, jive, swing and mambo...will have t buy more shirts, I sweat so much...

part two was on to waltz...lol..song "you're my best girl and everything you do is right " came on ....irony escaped no one...moved on to tango then FT...i was pretty much on fumes after waltz....but he was merciful...more tomorrow...blesses self
 
Practice went well. FIRST OPEN CHA CHA LESSON. Enough to get me motivated to post (too boost my confidence anyways... to try)! It was both terrifying and exciting. We have some "tricks" if you will in our routine (routine is serving double duty as production/routine for future comps) and oh man! I have to "wiggle" my way up once or twice and "body roll" once. My body was verrrrry awkwaaarddddd.

On the bright side. I have the most positive and motivational instructor out there! he had so much energy during our lesson - it was very easy to match his attitude! Additionally, I noticed how better my "dance memory" has gotten since I started barely 6 months ago (though it feels like forever). While I didn't know all of the patterns/tricks, I was able to at least remember most of the new choreo. yay!

also. repost, because I'm silly and posted this in the "how are your PRACTICES" going. Clearly I'm too excited :p
 

Purr

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Lessons lately, mostly on am. smooth...lots of volume and movement...seem to run out of room on the floor quickly...managed to complete double pivots in foxtrot to pro's liking...making subtle adjustments to posture to improve topline...a small adjustment causes a big difference...all good. :)
 

FancyFeet

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Awesome. (Pros are back from England.) Lesson this past week should have been a torture session given it was an hour of painfully (as in 1/4 to 1/2 time) slow waltz, but as a result I'm much more aware of where my weight needs to change. Thank goodness it was only an hour though, as two might have killed me. I was shaking by the end! I love these types of lessons, they make me feel like I've made a gigantic progress leap on technique.

Also, for those of you who remember, I've been struggling with my balance drifting in and out for seemingly no reason - but I think we finally figured out what was happening... My upper body just needed to be adjusted about 2% further forward. Almost visually imperceptible, but it does make a difference! Pro apparently asked his coach for suggestions on what to try, and we went through several 'try this' efforts on the weekend. Now I just have to learn the adjusted body position as my new normal... since I currently drift in and out of it as we dance. Lots of work ahead, but happy to have (hopefully) found a solution!
 

fascination

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lessons went reasonably well...I will take it....have to say that I am enjoying latin and standard an alarming amount...how does that happen?...somehow the 10 dancer manages to convert the pupil....still loving smooth...but it isn't standing alone anymore...funny how that snuck up on me
 

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