Small Competitions - What is the Value?

jiwinco

Active Member
#44
At this point in my life..... and I am not so much into competing against big fields. Now, it is a pleasure to work hard with my pro to improve my dancing. Preparing for a small comp still allows me to do that. I don't care for dancing on a split floor, the waits between rounds, the pressure I used to put on myself. I am just having fun.....
Yes! Could not agree more!
 

FancyFeet

Well-Known Member
#45
I especially hate this in open smooth, it is downright dangerous.
For what it's worth: Any comp that does this for open anything immediately gets crossed off my 'will attend again' list. Where I don't have an issue (or at least not a big one): early syllabus anything (beginner, pre-bronze, even bronze), syllabus latin or rhythm, juveniles any style up to pre-champ, solo latin.

I feel like everything else simply moves too much, unless your floor is the euro WDSF standard or bigger, or simply deserves to be the focus.
 

JudeMorrigan

Well-Known Member
#46
I had them for silver smooth a few years back. That's at least syllabus, but silver smooth is fairly serious bidness these days. The funny thing was, I did a better job with my navigation on the split floors than I did in the scholarship later that day. My instructor was bemused and baffled. I found it somewhat less remarkable. You see, the split floors were a *lot* closer to the size of the studio where I did most of my practicing. I was *used* to have to do silly amounts of curving.

(I still consider split floors to be a pretty serious downside though. At least let us use the whole floor even if we have to start on a specific half of it, plzthx.)
 

cornutt

Well-Known Member
#48
You see, the split floors were a *lot* closer to the size of the studio where I did most of my practicing. I was *used* to have to do silly amounts of curving.
I know where he's talking about... open right, open left, you're at the wall! That is, when you have legs as long as JM... :D At least it's not the place in Hattiesburg where you have to weave in and out of a line of pillars. Seriously, I have to say that I am pretty displeased at having to dance silver smooth on a split floor... for some reason, it makes everyone pile up on the short walls.
 
#49
I don't remember ever seeing a split floor. Only combining A, B, and even C of different categories all together in one heat to give you an illusion of competing.
 

MaggieMoves

Well-Known Member
#51
The ballroom is divided into an A side and a B side, and two events are run simultaneously. You dance your routine on half of the floor. I especially hate this in open smooth, it is downright dangerous.
I absolutely DESPISE when organizers do this. A friend of mine takes lessons & does competitions at a well known chain studio which has done this at both of the competitions I've went to see her dance at. Even in Latin/Rhythm I find it intolerable. In Standard/Smooth I might consider scratching myself from the heat(s). This goes for any competition.


I don't remember ever seeing a split floor. Only combining A, B, and even C of different categories all together in one heat to give you an illusion of competing.
I'd still rather have this than a split floor.


Back on topic, there are some smaller competitions I've absolutely loved. There's definitely a lot more personal attention, and some of them aren't even that "small" in the NYC area.
 

Larinda McRaven

Site Moderator
Staff member
#53
I know where he's talking about... open right, open left, you're at the wall! That is, when you have legs as long as JM... :D At least it's not the place in Hattiesburg where you have to weave in and out of a line of pillars. Seriously, I have to say that I am pretty displeased at having to dance silver smooth on a split floor... for some reason, it makes everyone pile up on the short walls.
probably be cause they are ALL short walls when the floor is split. LOL
 

Larinda McRaven

Site Moderator
Staff member
#54
It happens when organizers are under pressure to manage a schedule that was assumed off of previous years entires ... but it totally not doable with this years reality. Believe me no organizer does it because they want to. They do it because they will be fined by the NDCA if the actual schedule falls outside of certain boundaries the NDCA has set forth for them. The last time I danced on was in San Diego. But they happen with equal rarity no matter where I am judging.
 

Larinda McRaven

Site Moderator
Staff member
#55
I don't remember ever seeing a split floor. Only combining A, B, and even C of different categories all together in one heat to give you an illusion of competing.
I'd still rather have this than a split floor.
Except that the NDCA has guidelines on how many 'events' can be run in one heat simultaneously on a floor, and how many competitors can even be on a floor. And that is for YOUR benefit. If there are too many couples on the floor for me to look at you can bet my time spent watching any one couple is severely impacted. So competitors will receive a more thorough assessment when the number of judges increase but the amount of competitors they have to be responsible for decreases. So you really are better off on a split floor, instead of cramming an stupid amount of people into the same space, as far as being judged is concerned.
 
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Mengu

Well-Known Member
#57
So does a floor that's smaller than 72x60 and split into two meet the minimum floor size rule?
Very much so... Minimum size is 60x36 or 2160 square feet (66x42 for championship). The rules specifically allow splitting the floor to multiple sections no smaller than 1080 square feet each. The limitations are that there must be no more than 8 couples per split section (with some exceptions, it could be up to 10), as many judging panels as sections, and at least two scrutineers with computers.

It is of course pretty unreasonable for 8-10 couples to dance silver smooth on a 30x36 floor, but I expect the odds of such an occurrence is extremely unlikely.
 

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